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and joined the old boy establishment. you save my pork and i'll save yours. a bad week for the pork bellieb, pretty good start for the tea parties and progressives as charles dudley warner put it, politics makes strange bedfellows. this is one time when people sleeping together gave john boehner a bad night but saved the country a half billion bucks. that's "hardball." "the last word with lawrence o'donnell starts right now. the new republican governor of rhode island sent the state police to hunt down state democratic senators who refused to show up and vote on his plan to cut workers' rights. one of the senators who is in hiding will join me from an undisclosed location. and ann coulter is back, yeah, on msnbc. >> let's talk about the situation in wisconsin. >> cairo has moved to madison these days. >> try to take away the rights of workers throughout the state, they react. >> union workers in wisconsin take to the streets, protesting
the new republican governor's plan to cut state workers' bargaining rights, cut their benefits, after cutting taxes. >> shrink the employees' collective bargaining rights. >> collective bargaining rights. >> the pictures out of wisconsin are amazing. >> largest pro-democracy movements in this state really since the '60s. >> this is a tremendous, inspiring reaction. >> we are ready to take the fight against those who want to destroy the rights of working people in our state. >> we're over a thousand teachers that called in sick yesterday to protest this bill. >> support for the workers divides along party lines. >> it's not asking a lot. it's still about half of what private sector pensions do. >> critics, including president obama, disagree. >> public employees, they're our neighbors. >> it's not like people are just looking for something to be upset about. >> meanness takes hold after a while and it poisons the whole
atmosphere. >> democratic senators in the state are now taking extreme measures. >> democratic lawmakers are now fleeing the state. >> police officers are now looking for democrats in the state's legislature who are refusing to show up for a controversial vote. >> the legislative agenda has ground to a halt. >> while workers protest in wisconsin, washington republicans work on their own cuts and threaten a government shutdown. >> the only people cheering for government shutdown around here are democrats. >> we're terribly disappointed that speaker boehner can't control the votes in his caucus. >> if march 4th comes around and there is no agreement on this current budget, there will be a government shutdown. >> read my lips -- we're going to cut spending. >> read my lips. >> we're going to cut spending. >> good evening. wisconsin democratic lawmakers on the lam have been found hiding out from wisconsin state troopers reportedly in rockford,
illinois, after crossing state lines before taking off again for an unknown location. they fled their state capitol today in order to prevent the republican-dominated legislature from reaching a quorum and passing a bill that would have stripped public employees of their bargaining rights and cut back their health and pension funds. it's a last-ditch effort to give protesters more time to pressure republican lawmakers to reconsider their votes on a plan that republican governor scott walker said was necessary to balance the budget. >> kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! kill the bill! >> republican congressman paul ryan said the uprising in wisconsin looks familiar to him. >> it's like cairo has moved to madison these days.
>> president obama said he understood that, quote, everybody's got to make some adjustments to the new fiscal realities, but he also offered a defense of the protests. >> some of what i've heard coming out of wisconsin, where you're just making it harder for public employees to collectively bargain generally, seems like more of an assault on unions. >> speaker of the house john boehner immediately pushed back on what he called the president's attack on the wisconsin governor and hailed governor walker as a hero who was, quote, daring to speak the truth about the dire fiscal challenges americans face and liberate our economy. so, the wisconsin uprising has gone national. joining me now is wisconsin state senator li na c. taylor, who is hiding with 14 other wisconsin democrats in an
undisclosed location. senator taylor, can you say where you are tonight? >> where i am is taking the stand for the workers of wisconsin so that we can protect our trail blazing ways to make sure that -- [ poor audio ] >> senator, there are two republican state senators, senator dale schultz and senator van wengard who seem to be possibly wavering a bit and seeking a possible compromise. do you have any way of being in contact with them right now? >> we've put out a compromise amendment -- we heard about it.
committee where this bill was igal hed on iday. we were athearings on moaynd republicans refused to continue to hear from the people of wisconsin. democrats have heard from 3,000 more people and counting. and i am not aware of a schultz amendment in finance or any more discussed. >> senator taylor, we're having a lot of trouble with your cell phone. it's cracking up a little bit, so we're going to try to re-establish bert contact with you and try to get back to you. thanks for joining me, and i hope we can get back to you. joining me now from madison, wisconsin, is our own ed schultz, host of "the ed show." ed, what is the feeling out there on the ground today? and it looks like we don't quite know what the feeling is with ed schultz out there on the ground today. and no one in the control room
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come to the capitol in order to be heard. republicans have shut them off and have decided not to continue to hear them, and democrats have allowed them to listen. so we hope that individuals will hear their voices and will embrace some of the issues that are way beyond a budget repair bill and really go to design people's rights, health care, it goes to attacking our seniors. this is really overreaching by our governor. >> what would be your counterproposal tonight to the republicans in the senate? >> i think the first thing is the governor has to be willing to sit down at the table with the scitizens of wisconsin who are workers. and more importantly, you can't say that you don't have anything to offer. you need to come to the table and say this is where we are and can you help us come up with solutions. if our governor does not have the savvy to figure out the solutions, then allow the workers to tell you about efficiencies or things that can be done. but at least give them an
opportunity to agree or disagree with some offer that the governor has. so that's thing number one. and i think thing number two is we don't disagree, necessarily, with benefits, meaning pensions and health care. there may have to be a different amount paid in. people have agreed. workers have agreed to that. but the issue is denying them the ability to sit at the table and talk about the conditions of their work environment and the conditions, for example, that our children are talk in or so on and so forth. there are many state workers that are affected by this. >> so, senator, the key points here is really the negotiating power of the unions going forward and what they will be allowed to negotiate on, because that is one of the components the governor wants to eliminate their ability to negotiate anything other than their salaries. is that the governor's position? >> that is correct. the governor has asked for
nothing but wages to be discussed. but when you consider the fact there's been a freeze, right, in salaries or increases, that means technically you haven't given them anything that you can negotiate on, as well as this budget repair bill has -- at least a third of it has policy things that have no fiscal impact, and so there's no reason that those things should be included. so it would be great if the governor would also not put those nonfiscal items within the bill. >> senator taylor, what could get you to return to wisconsin and return to the senate? >> i think the senate democrats decided that when the republicans refused to listen to the thousands of individuals who came and continue to do a hearing, that we need to slow this down. we need -- it was friday that this bill got introduced. and they rushed through a hearing and cut people off and left a gentleman in the hearing room to not hear him. so slowing it down and not ramming it down the throats of
the workers of wisconsin so that they can at least, at the very least, have an opportunity to be heard and for the governor to sit down and do what he's been paid to do -- be the governor. sit down at the table. negotiate with the workers of wisconsin. stand up and do what we sent you to do, which is be a governor for all of wisconsinites, not just your friends or those special interest groups who did something for you, because the bill also doesn't treat all unions the same. he did favors for his friends. >> wisconsin state senator lena c. taylor, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having us and allowing the voice of wisconsinitis to be heard today. >> we need to hear that. thank you very much, senator. joining me now from madison, wisconsin, is ed schultz, host of "the ed show" tonight at 10:00 p.m. ed, any new developments out there tonight that indicate to you there is a possibility for some progress? >> well, you know, lawrence, i was listening to that interview you were doing with the state
senator. i'm wondering how is this going to be resolved? and i think we're a long way from that. there is a tremendous amount of resolve within the protesters here in madison, wisconsin. it's going to be a full week tomorrow. and i don't see them backing down at all. i was just in the rotunda a little while ago and talking to many of the people that have been here for days. and they're not going to back down. they feel like that there is a grave injustice being done here. tremendous resolve. and they really believe that the governor is morally wrong. he's trying to balance the budget, and there are arguments out there that there is no budget crisis, but he's trying to do this on the backs of middle-class americans. he's trying to do this and not asking everybody in the state to sacrifice something. and that is one of the big things that there problems are. the other thing -- [ cheers ] you can sense by this crowd, i mean, there is a lot of pent-up aggression here. they want america to know how they feel on this. and i don't see how this is
going to resolve anytime soon. >> ed, you have taken this story national. you said on your program you haven't heard from the president about this, you haven't heard from people in washington about it, you couldn't get responses from people like nancy pelosi when you tried to. you have gotten those responses today. you've provoked it. let's listen now to what president obama had to say about this today. >> and i think it's very important for us to understand that public employees, they're our neighbors, they're our friends. these are folks who are teachers and they're firefighters and they're social workers and they're police officers. you know, they make a lot of sacrifices and make a big contribution. and i think it's important not to vilify them or to suggest that somehow all these budget problems are due to public employees. >> ed, does wisconsin need to hear president obama say more? >> i think the president was speaking there in generic terms
about how he believes in the concept of unions and how valuable these people are to the operating of the government and the basic functions of the state of wisconsin. but he also said in that interview that there are fiscal realities that have to be addressed. and it somewhat is being interpreted by a lot of wisconsinites that the president is opening the door for governor walker to come in here and make the arbitrary cuts against these middle-class americans without it really being justified. i did call out the leadership of the democratic party because, lawrence, you know, i think this is part of a much greater plan. i think this is not only about balancing a budget and there's a debate about whether there really is a budget crisis, but this is about union busting. and karl rove even said that yesterday, talking about how they're trying to diminish the membership of unions around this country, and that, of course, would affect the pocketbooks of a lot of campaigns for the progressive movement.
you're seeing this in ohio. you're going to see it in florida. you're going to see it in other states as all part of a bigger plan. and this crowd unction understa. so i think the president, in my opinion, and from the people i've talked to here in wisconsin, they want him to take an unequivocal stand that the fwof nor is wrong in attacking labor like this and expecting a certain amount of people in this state to have to bear the major brunt of doing anything financially for the budget. and on the other thing, you know, where is harry reid? this is a fundamental foundation of the democratic party to stand with labor on all issues. senator schumer, senator durbin, they have been ominously silent on this because many liberals in this country and workers and middle-class americans think this is ground zero for 2012, that this is standing up for workers in america, and if they can't stand up here and if the democrats can't be vocal about it, when are they going to do it? >> ed, i think the proof that
this is about union busting is what we just heard from senator taylor. senator taylor said that the democrats in the senate are prepared to negotiate on the financial items. they are prepared to negotiate on how much an increase there might be in terms of public workers, contributions to their health premiums and to their pensions. they're willing to talk about a possibility there on the numbers. but the thing that they're stuck on is this absolute and strict limitation on what the union function can be. and that seems to me to bring this down to pure old-fashioned union busting. >> well, that's the feeling here on the ground, lawrence. i mean, these americans are willing to sit at the table and talk about budget issues. but they don't want to be arbitrarily browbeaten and told, you know what, you can't talk about it, this is the way it's going to be, it's my way or the highway, and if you don't do it, there's going to be a lot of cuts.
that's not how things should be done. it's very heavy handed. it plays right into a bigger national picture. and i do think that we were seeing some real leadership by these senators in wisconsin who decided to walk out today and give this governor a defeat. and they are standing in solidarity, speaking for these workers because they know the serious impact that this is going to have. i have talked to people here on the ground repeatedly, teacher after teacher, firefighter after firefighter, nurse after nurse, public worker after public worker, that this is real money. this is discretionary income to their family kitchen table in the thousands of dollars. now, i don't know how you build an economy when you're taking money away from people and then in the future you would be restricting their ability to go to the bargaining table in fairness and negotiate for possibly a better life. and i think this cuts right to the fabric of this state, the history of this state, where
labor started back in the 1800s. it cuts right to the fabric of whether we're going to build our economy in this country, or if we're going to gut the middle class. and governor walker is very callous about this. and he's coming off as a very rude and callous person, saying, hey, look, this is the way it's got to be and you have to pay it, but we won't do that to the top 2%. that's another issue. >> ed schultz, we can't wait for "the ed show" live in madison, wisconsin, tonight. thanks for joining me tonight, ed. >> thank you, lawrence. now to the national budget battle. another republican stepped up to attack president obama's budget plan for next year. >> president obama trying to get away with telling the american public that his plan is actually a good plan for this country when he's not talking about reforming entitlements and he's not talking about really chipping away at that $14 trillion debt that will bring america to her knees.
>> speaking for money to a group of long island business officials, sarah palin then offered her thoughts on what could steer america off of what she called the road to ruin, including what to do with entitlement programs like social security. >> you do that by just applying commonsen commonsense, constitutional, time-tested truths about capitalism and free-market enterprises. new enrollees in our government entitlement programs, they need to be told it's not going to be the same as it had been in years past when you had a big base of workers being able to pay into a system and then you receive what it was that you invested and you trusted government to invest for you at the end of the day in your retirement years. it's not going to be that way anymore for new enrollees. >> major spending cuts being promised by republicans is what is threatening a government shutdown come march 4th if congress can't agree on a continuing resolution to fund the government. what does palin think of a
government shutdown? >> if that's what it takes, let it be for a week or two there, this message that is sent to our politicians who are so tone deaf to what the people of america are saying. what the people of america are saying is enough is enough, no more status quo. we don't want to keep growing that debt and allow deficit spending. the message was sent, and tone-deaf politicians, they're going to be fired and they ear going to be replaced in the next election psych fl they don't listen this time. >> joining me now, ranking member of the house budget committee, democratic congressman chris van hollen. congressman van hollen, can you explain to sarah palin what it would be like in america with a government shutdown that she imagines running a week or two? >> it's an example of the reckless approach we're seeing in the house with the house republicans. what it would mean is this -- millions of social security recipients would not get their social security checks. doctors who take medicare patients, our neighbors, our
parents, they wouldn't be paid. everything would be ground to a halt. we saw what happened in 1994. at that time the republicans in the house thought, hey, the american people will never notice that the federal government just went on the blink. and what happened was in a very short period of time people began to realize just what that would mean and how we wouldthat affect their daily lives. it is very reckless both of sarah palin as well as speaker boehner today, who began to sort of take the it's my way or the highway position with respect to negotiations in the house and the senate. >> let's listen to what speaker boehner had to say about this today. >> our goal here is to cut spending. but i am not going to move any kind of short-term at current levels. read my lips -- we're going to cut spending. >> congressman van hollen, he's going to cut spending. is there a spot where you can find for compromise with him at this point?
>> well, as you know, lawrence, the president just presented his budget this week and said we have to come up with cuts right now. that's why the president has proposed $400 billion of cults over period of time, taking that discretionary spending as a percentage of the economy down to the lowest level since the eisenhower administration. the difference is this -- we need to come up with a responsible plan for doing that, not a reckless one, and the bipartisan commission, republicans and democrats alike, who are charged with coming up with a plan to reduce the deficit, warned us very clearly, yes, come up with the plan as the president has to cut spending and the deficit, but no to immediate deep cults because it will hurt the economy and put people out of work. what they're doing here will not create one single job. in fact, as speaker boehner acknowledged the other day, people will lose their jobs. his response? so be it. so that's what we're facing here.
and a very callous attitude toward any kind of public employees. we're seeing that same kind of thing in wisconsin. so it's fitting that we tie those things together, because that's their view. this will not just hurt public employee jobs, however. it will also cost us other thousands of jobs throughout the economy by doing this deeply and reck less lessly now as opposed plan. >> congressman vis van hollen, democrat of maryland. i think you're going to have a very light night on march 4th when this deadline approaches. thanks for join us. >> good to be with you. sarah palin took her turn today making fun of the first lady's support of breast-feeding. that's coming up in tonight's "rewrite." and ann coulter joins me to handicap the republican field of presidential nominees for 2012. she says if chris christie doesn't run, the gop will get stuck with another loser like john mccain, and it's up to her and her buddies, rush and hannity, to not let that happen again. oohhh...my back.
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a lot of false rumors about him. >> health care, immigration, some other issues he's -- >> there are a few things he's a little soft on, but by the way, our whitewash memories of reagan, he was soft on a few thing, too. >> joining me now, my former msnbc colleague, ann coulter. ann, thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> does msnbc still appear on your resume anywhere or has that been whitewashed soviet style? >> it's the only network i've ever worked for. started with you. >> there you go. here's the idea for tonight. >> yes. >> we're going to try, for a change of pace for you -- >> yes. >> we're going to try to find areas of agreement. going to reach across the aisle for areas of agreement. >> can i play, too? >> yes, yes, indeed. so, for example, an area of agreement we seem to have, mitt romney is a loser. please expound. >> well, i wouldn't say that. i mean, he may well be the best candidate if it's not my love, chris christie. and when it came down to three
candidates, huckaby, mccain, or romney, i was totally for romney if that's what my choice is. maybe i'm wrong about my predictions saying he would run. >> you're right. you said romney would lose. totally right. >> the funny thing is i normally hate, hate, hate playing the prediction game because you come to me for my historical larger analysis. you can can ask a homeless guy to make a prediction. who cares. but in this case i gave a prediction and i warned the cpac kids, maybe you can laugh at me in two years but that's my prediction. run chris christie, he's the only one who can beat obama. if it's not christie, it will be romney, if christie doesn't run. >> a couple more because i think the problem is there is something wrong with every one of those people in the field right now. >> other than the magnificent christie. >> what's the flaw on huckaby? >> i can't do this. >> this would be violating -- the right-wing conspiracy -- >> it's not quite -- >> if you sit here and say here's what's wrong with huckaby, here's what's wrong
with pawlenty. >> how about you tell me why all democrats have to kick al sharpton's ring? >> al sharpton's not running for president. >> neither is huckaby right now. >> i, by the way, maintain that the only one who has nothing wrong with him, no prohibitive negative, is pawlenty. i see pawlenty as the guy who can win the nomination and be a reasonable threat to barack obama in the general election. >> what's the alleged problem with chris christie? he's very smart, very articulate. >> there have been some problems identified not by me but by your friends in the vast right-wing conspiracy. but i want to go back -- >> i think talking to mark le vin. >> we'll get to mark. mark's got something here i'm going to read to you that he has said about your position on christie. sarah palin we agree cannot win the nomination. >> no. i love her. i think she could win the nomination. i especially love her for her enemies. i'm insanely jealous of that.
i love her for how she makes liberal heads explode. i wrote the conservative of the year piece on sarah palin for human event, ronald reagan's favorite newspaper. but i think it would be a step down for her to run for president. that's like saying rush limbaugh should run for president. she's huge. she sends out a twitter on death panels and everyone's talking about it. it would be crazy for her to run for president. >> you think, for example, that's more power than actually being able to negotiate treaties and pass health care reform bills or repeal them, for example, if she was president, that that -- maybe she's got more power on the discovery channel or wherever she is? >> so can chris christie. on the discovery channel, she sends out a twitter and everybody's talking about it. >> i want to go back to your -- you have a very warm memory of one of the meetings of the vast right-wing conspiracy that took place on a thanksgiving a few years ago. let's listen to what -- >> oh, yes. >> -- your memory was of that.
we'll listen to that. >> and the last time you and mark levine and rush and i were all talk about this, thanksgiving 2007, i asked y'all who you supported and you said what mark is saying now, i hate them all, and we ended up with john mccain. well, i'm not letting you do that this time. we're picking the best candidate and getting behind him. >> i don't hate them all. i don't know what you're talking about. >> i'm quoting mark levine on this. >> all right. >> you really embarrassed sean on that. he -- i don't hate them all. he had to get that in there. he had trouble keeping a straight face on "i don't hate them all." you guys hated all of the republican candidates. >> i hate them all was a direct quote from my second love, mark levine. and, you know, i agreed with him on everything. but we have to run somebody. and it's obviously got to be chris christie. >> so secretly you all hate them all again except for -- >> i haven't conferred with them yet this year. >> let me help you right now confer with mark levine, radio
host, very conservative guy. he doesn't agree with you on chris christie. here's what he has to say about it. he says, talking about you, does she support his positions on gun control, amnesty, the appointment of an islamist to the bench, the green agenda, his campaigning for mike castle, his m.i.a. on health care litigation, et cetera, and how does she think this would energize the base outside of new jersey? >> well, i could take those one by one. >> let's do it. for example, who's the islamist to the bench -- >> i can explain that. >> guyo ahead, explain that. >> if i could make a corporate point first, and that is christie is very articulate. he has taken brave positions that no other republican was willing to take, taking on the teachers union. >> raise the social security retirement. >> right, and amazingly every once in a while a politician comes along and says the truth and people love it. he's one of them. we haven't seen that for 20
years. on the issue by issue points, there are few things i disagree with him on. you can talk him out of it. you can change a mind. you can't inject an iq in a candidate. he is smart and very articulate and that's why i love him and we'll change his mind on a few things. the islamist on the bench, it's a temp nest a teapot. >> not in republican circles. >> i'm a right-winger. no. this is the way -- >> exactly one right-winger right now who's okay with isl islamists on the bench. is it just the one islamist that's okay? >> this is the -- i think this is a cheap way to go after people. lawyers defend klines. they're often clients who are in trouble. this is a muslim lawyer who's worked very closely with law enforcement, and by the way, the entire u.s. attorney's offers was in favor of this guy. he was one of seven judges christie nominated to the superior court. >> the headline's going to say ann coulter says mark levine's argument is cheap because you just -- >> no, i didn't.
no. no. i love mark levine and love everything you say. >> you said that -- you know, you agreed with him that -- >> a tobacco lawyer. if i could go back, the cheap argument, the way cargo used to talk about ken starr, tobacco lawyer, tobacco lawyer. i don't think it's fair to go after a lawyer for his clients. >> okay. you said that you agreed that christie is soft on a few things. you agreed with hannity on that. i guess you're going to work with him on that. but you also made the point that ronald reagan was soft on a few things, too. what was reagan soft on other than raising taxes? >> i'm not telling you. i'm not going to attack the blessed memory of ronald reagan. you know, when he was governor, the biggest regret of his life was that he signed an abortion law. this was before roe v. wade so, give him a break. it wasn't a big issue. and he signed that was the biggest mistake he ever made. >> he also raised taxes, which is something -- >> overall. >> does hannity know that reagan raised taxes? >> hannity knows all. >> oh, okay. >> he knows more than you. you're a democrat. >> you're not on the payroll
over there, but you can sound like it sometimes. this tribe, this conspiracy loyalty you have. so christie doesn't run. and then you're going to end up with some nominee who then you'll pretend you didn't say this, right? >> i already told you, i could be wrong. prediction is a prediction, but i do think that christie is our very strongest candidate. and by the way, come august, if the supreme court overturns obama care and if the republicans manage to cut spending, maybe i tell christie don't run this year, obama will get re-elected. if republicans manage to cut an enormous amount of spending and obama care is overturned, obama will probably get reelectricitied. >> ann coulter's strategy for the re-election of obama. my former colleague at msnbc, ann coulter, thank you very much for braving that position at the table tonight. thanks for coming in. ? thank you for having me. sarah palin took a page from the book of bachmann and slammed michelle obama for supporting breast-feeding. and later -- lady gaga stood
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michelle bachmann, a mother of five, who breast fed all of her babies, actually criticized michelle obama for supporting, yes, breast-feeding. now comes the most recent losing vice presidential candidate who will never be president, yes, sarah palin, taking her turn to make fun of the first lady for supporting breast-feeding. here's palin today during an appearance with the long island association, one of new york's biggest business associations, blaming president obama for the rise in commodity prices and finding a way to reach over and make fun of michelle obama in the process. >> commodity increases, which of course you know result in higher
costs of living for the rest of us as we're buying our groceries at the grocery store, ask mom who's still out there buying cases of diapers all these years later, cases of diaper, cans of formula, no wonder michelle obama is telling everybody you better breast-feed your babies. yeah, you bert, because the price of milk is so high right now, regardless of the political -- you know, do it for economic reasons. >> very funny. here's what's not funny about breast-feeding and why the first lady wisely encourages it. breast-feeding helps propekt text babies from infections and illnesses. children who are breast fed for six months are less likely to become obese. breast-feeding also reduces the risk of sudden infant death syndrome. mother who is breast-feed have a decreased risk of breast and ovarian cancers. guess who used to know this? governor sarah palin. governor sarah palin, who issued
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lady gaga is back in political mode. she was on abc's "good morning america" today talking about her latest cause. >> today was a latex condom-inspired outfit because we're here to talk about safe sex. so it was quite easy. today i really wanted to head to toe be representative of what we women and people all over the world need to be concerned about, which is the leading cause of death in women all around the world, which is hiv. >> lady gaga is promoting a new
lipstick, the profits of which will go toward hiv and aids prevention efforts around the world. gaga was once again the talk of the grammys this weekend. before even going inside, she arrived in a very large egg. she explained it all to jay. >> i think it's about bringing people together and the performance we did last night at the grammys was -- and what we've been doing with the egg and the rebirth. >> yeah. >> it's meant to signify an artistic statement of birthing a new race, and it's a race with no prejudice, a race within the race of humanity that bears no prejudice against anyone. so that's really the statement in itself. [ applause ] >> that's really good. really good. >> lady gaga could not be here tonight, so joining me now in place of lady gaga, alex wagner, of course, white house correspondent for politics daily.
thanks for joining me tonight, alex. >> that's quite an intro. thank you, lawrence. >> you know, when you can't get lady gaga, number two -- >> the next best thing. i was actually wearing latex horns earlier tonight but took them off because with the makeup it was a little bit much. >> good to know. now, "good morning america" also had minnesota congresswoman michele bachmann on the same show this morning with lady gaga. she was asked what she thought about lady gaga. let's listen. >> you know, i don't really know that much about lady gaga. i hate to say it. i have a lot of children, but i don't know that much about lady gaga. >> okay. bachmann's got five kids between the ages of 16 and 28. >> yes. >> now, let me just tell you -- i don't have to tell you this, alex. it is impossible to have a 16-year-old and not know everything about lady gaga. i mean, i don't want to get into what's going on in the bachmann family, but if you're doing -- in the second minute of conversation with any 16-year-old lady gaga comes up. how can she not know?
>> well, i think that's what we call a willful looking of the other way. >> okay. >> you know, that's probably also the last time michele bachmann and lady gaga are going to be in the same room other than at the beginning of a very bad joke. as far as the tea party and as far as the republican party and lady gaga, i think there is definitely a cultural difference we're talking about here. lady gaga has been involved in a lot of progressive causes including today aids activism and also don't ask, don't tell and immigration. it's not that surprising to me they're not sort of on the same team as far as batting lineup. that said, you know, i think there is a certain generational gap and a certain apprehension that a lot of that generation has with regard to lady gaga, who's very much pop star two or three point oh and has harness the internet and social networking in a way that is unfamiliar and kind of scary to a lot of older, you know, politicians. at the same time, they understand her power and they don't want to sort of denigrate or dismiss her. so, you know, just having a
hands-off attitude like i don't know who she is is probably the safest bet. >> that's interesting. i'll give michele bachmann credit for lying about that. she does know who lady gaga is. but it's interesting she did not attack lady gaga, there talking about safe sex. michele bachmann is opposed to all sex outside of marital procreative sex so there was an open shot there that maybe is the first time michele bachmann didn't take that shot. >> definitely. i think -- and it's not just the latex suit. lady gaga is kind of like a teflon don when it comes to this stuff. that's twofold. one, if we're looking at current event, lawrence, setting aside, not to be too heavy handled with this, but the president is meeting with mark zuckerberg, the president and ceo of facebook, tonight in california. the egyptian government was just overthrown by youth and revolt who were largely organized through social networking. i think there is a lot of respect that comes with, you know, this new technology and this new generation and the cultural spokespeople for this generation